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« on: February 10, 2009, 05:38:46 PM »

New features have been added to CamcorderUser.Net to permit the upload and sharing of pictures and videos.  The GALLERY (from the menu bar) feature allows registered members to create albums into which they can upload pictures and videos.  EXIF data is captured and made available for photos.  Videos in a variety of common formats (wmv, mp4, avi {divx}, mov, real media, etc.) of up to 120 MB may be uploaded.  Also, links to member videos uploaded to media sharing sites like vimeo, youtube, facebook, flikr, etc. can be embedded in the member's album.

Users of FortVir.Net are highly encouraged to move their videos and pictures over to the new CCU.Net Gallery.  If you have embedded links to videos in FortVir.net albums in your posts, please edit your posts to reflect the new URL in your CCU.Net album.

Embedding streaming video into posts has been implemented.  Media from 165 video sites such as YouTube and Vimeo may be embedded by simply copying the URL to your video and pasting it into your post.  You do not need to put the URL inside [ url ] [ /url ] BB code so don't use the Insert Hyperlink feature in the WYSIWYG editor.  Just paste the link into your post.  Media from your CCU.Net Gallery album may be embedded by pasting the URL into your post.  Upon saving your post, a media player will appear in your post from which readers may play the video.  I have reviewed all the posts in the Video Showcase section and have edited those that may be displayed directly in the post.  Any posts that used FortVir.net albums have NOT been changed and the links to the videos will be lost after the FortVir.net Gallery is discontinued.

You may upload pictures as attachments but not video.  Please use the Gallery albums for uploading video.  Picture attachments will be shown below the post text as icons.  If you want the picture to be a part of your post, place it in the Gallery and link to it in your post.
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2009, 02:20:54 PM »

Ok. I'm relatively comfortable that the Gallery is working correctly.  I copied over FortVir albums for members here.  I believe the conversion was successful, but you might want to look to make sure.  Unfortunately, because the member names were different between FortVir and here, all the albums are general instead of personal.  You can still use them, just bear in mind that others can post in a general album as well.  Also, all the files show that I uploaded them.  I probably can change the ownership and upload name by editing the database if someone wants.  PM me if you want me to give it a shot.  I would greatly appreciate it if you would edit your posts that have links to a video at FortVir.  More on how to embed your album videos below.

As usual, videos play better if they are WMV, but MOVs play as well.  You can also upload your video to a hosting site like Vimeo and embed it in your album (as well as in posts).  If you are a Firefox user and are having problems viewing the videos, go get the Media Connectivity add-on 0.9.1.  This opens the files in an external media player that you can choose for each type of media.

USING GALLERY

You may post videos, pictures and music into an album in the Gallery.  You may use the CCUser.Net general album, or create your own personal album.  If you create a personal album, you may password protect it but you will have to give others the password so they can view your media.  Almost all types of video (including Matroska .mkv) can be embedded. 

When you are adding your media file, there will be three codes available for you to use:  BB code, html, and direct URL.  BB code may be used here in a forum post to embed a player in the post.  Just copy the BB code and paste it in your post.  Always add "type=av" without the quotes between the brackets after your media's file number if the software doesn't do it for you.  Click the ? (help) from more options.  To embed video hosted on YouTube and other media sites into your album, just copy the URL to your video from your browser address bar and paste it into the Embed URL input box below the Description text input box. To embed YouTube and other sites in a post, just copy the URL to your video from the browser address window and paste it directly into your post.  Do not use the Insert Hyperlink or Insert Flash icons on the WYSIWIG toolbar.  If your video is high definition, the software will play it that way in the post.

Enjoy.  And let me know if you have problems.

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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2009, 05:47:02 PM »

Guy - Sorry - some videos don't want to run. Mine crashes.
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2009, 04:37:31 AM »

Guy - Sorry - some videos don't want to run. Mine crashes.

Lucky old you, my album is empty. Perhaps there's a cryptic message there somewhere?

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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2009, 05:02:35 AM »

Dave - I thought that this

Digidave's Album
The videos I wish to share

meant that you had a private album somewhere!  I'm sure Guy's working on it.

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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2009, 05:33:41 AM »

Folks, I ran the converter and it copied over those videos and pictures it could.  If something didn't come over, I can't go back and get it without destroying all the others that copied successfully.  I have no assurance that the converter will run successfully a second time.  I also cannot make a private album for you.  Only you can do that.  The albums with your names are general albums.  That's the best I can do, sorry.  Sad

If you have the original of the uploaded video, you can reupload it into your general album or into a new private album.  If you don't have the original, PM me for further actions.

WRT the videos playing, make sure you have the latest versions of Windows Media Player, Quicktime and Flash.  The software on the server just streams the videos in those formats, the player on your computer is what actually plays the video.  For some reason I cannot fathom, Quicktime formats (MOV, MP4, etc.) must fully download before you can begin playing them.  At least, that is how it is working on my computer.  So, be patient because, for large videos, you will be looking at a black square for a while until the video downloads.  There are other media players that may work better than WMP or QT (like Media Player Classic).  You might try them to see if they work without crashing.  You'll need to make them the default player so WMP or QT don't start up when you try to play the video.
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2009, 05:56:21 AM »

You're up early, Guy?!

Thanks for your comprehensive response. No problem about the Gallery as far as I am concerned. You can only go with the system - and you did try, for which thanks. I'll see if I can have a go at a 'private' album during the weekend, just to see how it works.

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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2009, 06:01:10 AM »

Granpa,
I'm an early riser and a late-to-bed'r so you are likely to see me around anytime.

I am testing on your video.  The software doesn't like it for some reason, although I can download it and it plays fine.  Was it really an MOV when you encoded it?  Or, perhaps was it an MP4.  Your file name implies it was an AVI but with an MOV extension.  What software did you use to encode it?
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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2009, 08:17:50 AM »

Ok.  I have found a mod that will allow me to embed Menalto Gallery 2 into SMF.  I probably should have looked for this before I selected SMG.  The G2 mod is complicated but, if installed successfully, will keep all your original media in your FortVir albums and offers capability to synchronize the user files so you only have to log in once.  I suspect a shortfall of this approach is that you will not be able to embed any videos in posts, just link to them, which is how the FortVir implementation worked.  The SMG mod I have installed now is more flexible in this regard plus using it is cleaner than embedding G2.  I also made some mods to G2 several years ago with code supplied by another user to allow streaming playback of video files.  I'm not sure I can duplicate that now so embedding it may result in download only until I can find that code again.  I guess what I'm trying to say is I would prefer to stick with SMG.  However, this board is for you members so you need to tell me which implementation you would prefer.
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2009, 12:02:37 PM »

Folks,
I'd like to focus the site on the using of camcorders rather than on the acquisition of a camcorder or accessories.  Something like Nikongear.com.  That site embeds Gallery 2 into a portal arrangement with SMF.  I can do that here with either of the gallery scripts if y'all are inclined.  Personally, I like viewing your video productions and merging all of that into CCU.net was one reason for closing FortVir.
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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2009, 04:56:15 PM »

Seems that there are three sub-threads here - bear with me for a moment or two:

1  Re my own 'example of work' in FortVir, Guy, I can't remember now what its posted format was. I currently have, archived, two versions - .wmv and .avi, so it could be re-worked for a new site. This is detail stuff and probably not worth too much of your time at this stage, thanks.

2  Re the format of your new Gallery, I would have thought that you alone are really in the right position to juggle options and make the right decision. It's your show, after all!

3  Re the tone of ccu.net, two points:

a. Yes, it's been repeated only just recently here - it's principally the user, not the hardware, that produces the result. Or words to that effect. Although we are interested in each other's new toys, aren't we?! And finally...

b.  Something like Nikongear.com, Guy? Like http://nikongear.com/smf/index.php?topic=14517.0? I can't imagine Chris and Action, Dave and Shaun, ScenicRoute and Tim, etc behaving anything other than in a gentlemanly way to each other, can you? (And, just for once, I'll allow myself a Smiley -  Wink )

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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2009, 05:11:18 PM »

I have done some housekeeping in the Gallery.  All the videos transferred over should now be attributed to the owner instead of me.  I have gone into the Video Showcase and tried to update the links in the posts there to the correct videos in your albums.  Where I could not find a video, I have put "Video No Longer Available" in the posts.  If that isn't correct, please edit the post to put a correct link to your video in your album.

If a video you have linked to in a post did not transfer over for some reason, please upload it again to your album and fix the links.  When linking to a video or still in the Gallery, please use the BBC embed code and add "type=av" (without quotes) inside the brackets after id=??.  If you want the video titled, add caption="Whatever Your Title Is" inside the brackets after id=??.  You can always click on the ? to be reminded of the options.

Video files that employ the Quicktime player (e.g., MOV or MP4) will play if given enough time for the video to completely download.  However, there will be no controls on the embedded player.  The video can be started and stopped by double clicking on the player.  This is a universal problem for Quicktime and I have yet to find a solution although I am still looking.  The problem is with the QT player on your computer and not the site or the browser you are using.
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2009, 04:26:08 PM »

Hi Guy

I've tried to upload to the Gallery an edited version of my solitary posted video. It's 162mb (well within the stated maximum?) and in straightforward .wmv PAL 16:9 widescreen format. The 'Submit' progress bar runs slowly to around 40% then it crashes to the dread 'Internet Explorer cannot display the Webpage....'.

And it looked so easy this time round! 

Any ideas, please?

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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2009, 08:49:35 AM »

The maximum file size is 120MB, which is what it was before.  You will have to adjust the bitrate on the video (frame size doesn't make much difference) downward until you get under 120MB. Try a bitrate of 256 Kbps. If you can't get good quality with WMV, try MP4, but make sure the video has an .MP4 extension and not MOV.
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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2009, 05:40:50 AM »

If there might not be someone else out there having trouble I might just stick to DVDs.....

OK. So I mis-read the max file size. My fault - senility and incompetence.  Next, re-render to .avi.mp4 with Super c to 103 Mb, which needed 288kps. Near the max, perhaps, but with some leeway.  Runs fine locally on QT.  Deal with the Gallery entries then hit the Submit button. Three minutes or so for the progress bar to reach 100%, where it sits for five minutes.  Then it re-runs the process - apparently interminably, because at 25 minutes it's off again for the fourth time.  A quick test shows my broadband speed as 1.9 which is usually OK. 

What have I missed this time?
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